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Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 10 天前

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Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 10 天前
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  • rockerface🇺🇦@lemmy.cafe
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    There’s also anteaters

    • Agent641@lemmy.world
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      9 天前

      There are anteaters! Well done!

      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        9 天前

        Big if true

        • EarlOfSam@quokk.au
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          Small if false

          • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            9 天前

            Medium if ambiguous

            • rockerface🇺🇦@lemmy.cafe
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              Asymmetric if uncertain

        • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world
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          About dog-sized actually.

          • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            9 天前

            Depends on the dog

  • fossilesque@mander.xyzM
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    Coral are trees.

    • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netOP
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      • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.world
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        This is lemmy. It’s not like we need a special time

      • fossilesque@mander.xyzM
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        Nah, it’s a routine.

        • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netOP
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          Me too, thanks. If I’m not making a total ass of myself, you need to get me to a hospital because something is wrong

    • The D Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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      everything in nature has analagous structures. if you don’t see them you’re either looking too close or too far and you need to shift your perspective. a coral reef is a forest and the corals are the trees.

    • Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca
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      Coral trees are make of rock wood and each leaf is it’s own organism.

    • harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Trees are coral. Dead wood/dead limestone, wrapped over with living tissue.

  • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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    There are just so few optimal solutions to the same problem.

    It’s also why we should always try to copy nature when it comes to technology.

    • sparkyshocks@lemmy.zip
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      We should always look to nature, yes. A lot of aerodynamic designs seem to look a lot like the world’s fastest birds. Trees really do seem to optimize for capturing solar energy in an easily encoded blueprint.

      But also there are a few areas where we should recognize the limits of scope of the solutions nature has provided, or recognize the path dependency in how evolution might optimize for a particular pathway that no longer should continue to pose a restriction (the giraffe’s recurrent laryngeal nerve, for example).

      We’re allowed to mix and match. Just gotta be careful and recognize just how powerful billions of years of evolution is, as an optimization method.

      • GraniteM@lemmy.world
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        A lot of aerodynamic designs seem to look a lot like the world’s fastest birds.

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  • 🇦🇺𝕄𝕦𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕕𝕔𝕣𝕠𝕔𝕠𝕕𝕚𝕝𝕖@hilariouschaos.com
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    I think its even wilder to think about that sharks existed prior to trees

    • rockerface🇺🇦@lemmy.cafe
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      Sharks also existed prior to Saturn’s rings

      • Signtist@bookwyr.me
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        And Polaris! (the North star)

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          Do you mean before the star itself existed or before its position became the north star?

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            Polaris is only up to about 70 million years old. So, technically it’s likely to be way younger than the rings of Saturn, but it’s still crazy to me to think that a star was just… not there until it showed up one day, and sharks were there well beforehand.

      • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.world
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        9 天前

        And Taylor Swift, but not Liza Minelli (she is eternal)

    • qualia@lemmy.world
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      And dinosaurs existed for ~160 million years before grasses. runs to cross-reference all my illustrated childhood books’ dinosaur species extinction timelines and the presence of grass!!

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcinisation

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      It is worth noting – as someone who’s reasonably knowledgeable about arguably the main example, king crabs – that carcinisation is really interesting, but I think some people took the meme semi-unironically as this especially widespread example of convergent evolution.

      In reality, it’s confined to some members of the true crabs’ sister infraorder, Anomura. Which is still super cool, but even the faintest notion that crabs are some singularly ideal male body body form is just a runaway shitpost.

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        the faintest notion that crabs are some singularly ideal male body body form is just a runaway shitpost.

        What about that sounds like something I wouldn’t want to start a cult about?

      • KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz
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        What meme?

        • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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          This one. It’s easy enough seeing these, if you’re not familiar with the subject, to overzealously think that this is a widespread phenomenon.

    • joshchandra@midwest.social
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      Why couldn’t they just have called it “crabinization?”

      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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        sounds like getting lice.

      • psud@aussie.zone
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        Because they spent years in education and feel it gave them the duty to name things in latinish or greekish ways

        The disease cancer could also have been called crab because it was make for the crab-like shape of tumours

  • Kellenved@sh.itjust.works
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    The word “tree” just describes a plant phenotype, nothing more

    • Zorcron@lemmy.zip
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      Fish

      • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.world
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        Bzzz Bzzz went the fish

  • resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe
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    Orson Scott Card was right*.

    *About one particular thing.

    • Chakravanti@monero.town
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      In Speaker for the Dead?

      • resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe
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        Yes, piggy.

        • Chakravanti@monero.town
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          I tried to go on past this one but I stopped at the fourth. I couldn’t. You’re observantly meaning in your description of limited precision.

          Orion by Ben Nova was a bit more precise to what we see happening here.

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            Haven’t read Orion. Arborification?

            Orson Scott Card is a curious cat. He seems quite intelligent and open-minded until we get to his homophobia. It would be irresponsible not to speculate…

            If you want to see philosophers duke it out, read Orson Scott Card’s Alvin Maker series alongside Robert Anton Wilson’s Illuminatus! trilogy.

            • Anisette [any/all]@quokk.au
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              is cosmic trigger also okay? I don’t think I have it in me to read all of Illuminatus! but I have read about 1.5 books of cosmic trigger

            • Chakravanti@monero.town
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              I don’t give a flying fuck about OSC’s philosophy of anything at all, in particular.

              Neanderthals in particular on Orion. AI, “The Devil” & their relationship with trees and what trees were like, then. Much better a perspective that OSC, certainly.

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      angry, well I’m not sure whether my morality gland, my hedonism gland, or my good writing gland is more offended but whichever it is it’s making angry noises

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    I thoughts snakes are all related?

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      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legless_lizard

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        So the meme isn’t about Snakes but limbless lizards that look like snakes

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          I might be misunderstanding but isn’t that how this works? As I understand it carcinisation doesn’t actually turn for example lobsters into crabs, it just makes them crab-shaped

          • lugal@sopuli.xyz
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            Exactly. The meme doesn’t say that they turn into crabs but uses the correct term of carcinisation. Tree is a term about morphology, nothing to do with clades. So snakes is the odd one out because it does describe a monophonic group. Lizards don’t turn into snakes, they just look like them.

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          That’s how I’m reading it at least.

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    or become a supernatural angel.

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      Fun fact: that’s a human in the original.

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