• MartianRecon@lemmus.org
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    This is flat out no different than shooting someone in my book.

    This is why people are behind Luigi.

  • BigBenis@lemmy.world
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    It’s like the trolley problem, except on one track is somebody’s beloved father and on the other is some executive’s 5th yacht.

    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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      I remember when I was 5 years old, my dad tried asking me the trolley problem.

      So I took my train, and yelled at the G.I. Joes on my tracks “GET OFF THE TRAIN TRACKS, IDIOTS!!!” and ran them over. Then I backed the train up, switched tracks, and ran over spiderman. Then I yelled “FREE BONUS POINTS!!!”. Then I punched my dad in the balls, and ran upstairs giggling.

      About a year ago my dad reminded me of that story. I’m in my 40s now. So I told him “I stand by that decision.”

    • BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world
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      This situation was more complicated then that. The treatment in question was histiotripy. While it might be less invasive than traditional surgery, it isn’t necessarily “better” when dealing with stage 4 cancer that failed to respond to surgery or chemotherapy. It just uses sound waves instead of scalpels.

      Realistically, this guy would have died soon regardless of the treatment. It’s unlikely the technician would have been able to identify all the cancer after it’s spread throughout his body. It’s success depends on being able to target the majority of cancer cells, which isn’t easy for Stage 4 cancer.

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        That’s not even the point. Trying everything possible should be the norm, and it shouldn’t be dictated by some uncaring jackass with a 35th floor office. The entire little point of health insurance is to distribute the cost of those in need amongst all of the input of the whole. If you take enough of that input as profit for the stockholders and executives, there’s less available to do what the insurance is meant to do. They’re legally embezzling the investment of the whole without providing sufficient practical benefit to warrant it.

        • wabasso@lemmy.ca
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          But even if you made the insurance system completely non-profit, there’s no upper bound on how much you can spend on each individual. You’d still run into cases where you have to distribute a limited number of resources.

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              I’m not advocating for the US style of health insurance. I’m saying this specific case, if the medical commentators in this thread are to be trusted, may have ended up the same way in a non-profit model.

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              I think the point is that while your point is broadly true, in this specific scenario the treatment might not have been available anyway. Looking up on the named procedure, it seems likely most nations would have declined to offer this treatment, considering it futile in his situation.

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        I know you think you’re being pragmatic but it’s really just coming off as depraved.

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    What’s the guy gonna do? Sue them? He’s dead. Murdered by the capitalist authoritarians.

    The only rightful place for kings is under the blade of a guillotine.

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    They kill us through fraud And theft, and are surprised that we celebrated Luigi’s deeds. The truth is they will only start to care when more of them start to drop. How many more millions need to die because of this BS before we’re ready to bring justice down on their heads as a collective class?

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        I think you mean complicit. “Complacent” doesn’t make very much sense in that context.

        It’s also a hollow edgy take, the likes of which would be expected from a shut-in teenager who doesn’t actually interact with people. Most Americans are exploited to the point of exhaustion, which is a little more complicated than just “they’re complicit”, and some Americans are putting in quite a lot of effort to improve the shithole country we’re from.

        Have you ever had a warehouse job, or anywhere else where you can actually speak with the exploited masses? If so, did you speak to them? Have you ever spend time in real-world organizing spaces? Not talking about just going to a protest, I mean getting involved with the people in your community who you’re accusing of being complicit. (PSL doesn’t count.)

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    Whenever an economic argument is invoked to justify for or against doing something, it’s always a vacuous position.

    Economics must be subservient to the needs of the society it exists within.

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      Heck yes! Even the implementation of AI, and people getting let go. If enough people are unemployed, who’s actually buying the products that these companies are selling, peddled by the same AI that replaced the employees with? Feels like a free for all with these tech, not necessarily watching out for the overall impact on human societies…

  • Granbo's Holy Hotrod@lemmy.world
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    Any rememberries when the talking point was government death panels determining life value was why we couldn’t have universal medicare? Tony Stank remembers.

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    I wonder if their CEO considers himself medically necessary? To me it seems their C-suite might be a bit of a cancerous growth on the business.

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    And yet it is often by law that people have to have insurance that pays them nothing when the time comes.

    It is nothing short of robbery.

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    Nothing like the nypost comment section to get you out of your bubble. Can’t believe there’s so many insurance company defenders