I think a big problem is that video games are too afraid to be video games. They’re so embarrassed by the medium that they’re working in that they strive to make interactive movies instead.
LET IT BURN
This is /v/, which means this post is behind over 9000 layers of sarcasm.
All of which this platform will be oblivious to, because Lemmy just doesn’t do satire.
Lemmy hates the shit out of satire lol
And 4 years on, I still can’t figure out whether it’s because of neurospiciness or divergent interests. Linux? 471 communities. Writing? 2 and the mods of the second one abandoned their accounts years ago
Maybe it’s because even within the fediverse, there are too many people who agree to satirized positions unironically. i.e. Lemmy is just a little too diverse for most satire.
In certain ways, maybe. I can’t see eye to eye with some people on what constitutes a genocide, for instance. But there comes a point where it’s apparently either satire or a an objectively crazy user. It’s equally apparent who this split Is apparent to, on this open source communist Linux forum.
It’s my personal belief that lemmy at large is simply too experientially limited to recognize online satire outside of incredibly specific examples. Mostly meme templates. And there’s nothing wrong with that, but it is a little frustrating for me, personally.
Pretty sure it’s the tism.
I’ve gotten considerably more replies here than on Reddit from people who don’t understand sarcasm.
Neurodivergents being overrepresented likely accounts for some of the tendency of people mistakenly taking things literally on Lemmy. But I think a bigger issue is just a lack of media literacy. People tend to close themselves off from opposing viewpoints, and what does filter through is often exaggerated or otherwise misrepresented to make it easier to ridicule. This pattern leads people into thinking something intentionally absurd is in fact serious. Poe’s law is something easy to observe on other platforms too, but it’s worse on a platform with an especially political and nondiverse userbase.
Damn autists, taking everything literally
No, you must be thinking of kleptomaniacs
No, no, that’s “literally taking everything,” but now we’re getting into the realm of dyslexics
Yes, we are all very serious here. Yup. No funny business going on. Just us and our incredible seriousness. Sooo serious.
Oh thank god its not just me.
Lemmy is a big guy.
For you
Lemmy is still a relatively young community. I bet it gets better with time. I like to think that I already noticed small (and healthy) community growths.
And I do not have a metric nor an example. This is super vague, I know.
I don’t know. Lemmy’s majority user is former reddit users and even at the size reddit is now, sarcasm would constantly go over peoples’ heads
I’m pretty sure it’s because most of the people here are on the spectrum.
A lot of users came here to boycott reddit. Taking this kind of action is quite hard when it comes to dopamine sources like reddit. The users that migrated have at least in common that they overcame the reddit pull and also took the time and energy to land in a lemmy instance. I’m curious what Lemmy will look like in 5 to 10 years with this kind of “user starter” on the “lemmy agar”.
Lemmy does satire all the time, you’re just not reading it.
The problem that you are trying to identify is that satire needs to actually be satirizing something, ie, the context must be clear, and many people just assume the context in their head is the same as the context in everyone else’s heads.
You can see this illustrated by all the sarcasm that your comment has generated.
Now that the context is clear.
Satire in text form isn’t as simple to pull off as in visual media. Body language and tone matter a lot. As well Poe’s Law is in full effect anymore and someone having this view is actually not rare.
I took it as satire too, but what tells it’s /v/ ?
The blue colorscheme indicates it’s from one of the non-18+ boards, and /v/ is the one of those that it would fit the most.
Technically you can set any board to any of a bunch of color schemes, but most users just leave the defaults or pick on dark theme for all of them.
Blue board talking about game industry stuff, it’s the only place that fits.
It’s the enshitification of triple AAA titles fucking slapping surcharges on EVERYTHING; day one dlc, microtransactions, always online DRM, the ability to revoke access to the shit we pay for, it’s death by 1000 cuts. EVERY anti-consumer action, every attempt to squeeze more of us while delivering the same rehashed shit over and over. Yup I will keep playing my old consoles and the games I own. The intent of us withholding our money and refusing to purchase your shit is to provide publishers with a sense of pride and accomplishment for retaining their customer base.
Ya know what was an awesome game that just fucking worked? Granted I think it had hats or some shit. But pico park. Great game that worked awesome and didnt need any bullshit. Idk just came to mind.
Poignantly, not AAA.
AAA knows that their primary competition is old games, that run better on more hardware, and are just better games.
Via a combination of acting like a cartel in a market, and also personally being basically unimaginably vain… they distort reality around them to the greatest extent that they can, to continue to convince people their overpriced garbage is actually the hottest shit and you’re some kind of horrible bad person if you don’t pay them.
That’s why they have entire networks of access journalists, why they constantly write essentially op-eds that follow the meta, or the meta-meta of the actual video game industry, why AAA games have marketing budgets bigger than Hollywood movies.
It is literally a propaganda machine.
Piracy is morally superior to feeding these nepo baby gaslighting rainbow capitalists that love to pretend they’re progressive.
They’re not progressive, they’re entitled faux nobility, delusional narcissists that live in hugboxes that reward complancency and not rocking the boat.
What I find utterly asinine is it seems like the even care less about profits than they do feeding their egos and following this shit model of operation. Building shit games, injecting all the dlc, microtransactions crap and then charging so much no on wants to buy more. I constantly overspend on GOG and the like because its easy to get me in the door. If I have to save up to buy a game I have a lot of time to talk myself out of it.
Yeah, it is assinine.
Because really what this all boils down to is an excercise in vanity, in self-validation essentially by force.
You can see this everywhere in society… fucking, Trump is threatening the genocide of a civilization, ultimately, to avoid having to ever admit he was wrong about anything.
What is wild to me is that… you know like schizotypal people get a horrible rap in society, because they’re unstable and dangerous!
Yeah, yes, its tragic when one of them snaps and does something horrible.
But you what is fucking everywhere, so commonplace that its just expected, seen as unavoidable?
Absurdly overconfident malignant narcissists.
They’re very often literally sociopaths, and they very often do nothing other than ruin the lives of those around them, to validate themselves, because they fundentally are not capable of self-validation.
But again this is just apparently so normal, that it only even registers at a social level when it is hyper obvious and extreme, as with Destiny or Thor/Pirate Software.
They’re all the same personality type… never take real accountability for anything, gaslight you into thinking you somehow made a mistake or misunderstood them… when they will and do just say anything that they think will make them more highly regarded.
Its narcissists that are the most dangerous kind of person to human society, but we hardly at all treat them the way we treat a far smaller number of people with overall, far less dangerous neurotypes.
Certainly doesn’t help the field of psychology itself is full of narcissists.
AAA profits are higher than ever. Layoffs are tremendously inefficient. They do nothing to reduce costs long term, and can actually lead to increased costs. There is a good amount of economic research which demonstrates that.
Layoffs are corporatist virtue signalling.
Shareholders only want short term gains so they could sell their shares and win big.
Long term goals are for the suckers that bought the artificially inflated stocks.
Layoffs actually tend to artificially deflate stock prices as it’s seen as a signal of a company in financial distress - this is actually one of the reasons why industries tend to do layoffs simultaneously across multiple corporations. Of course this can be used to turn a profit through short selling but you’d need to have some sort of prior knowledge to set up the short positions prior to the layoffs being announced.
Just FYI, “dearth” means a scarcity or very little of something.
Oh wow, you’re right, why the heck did I think it was the opposite? I’ve been misusing that word for years. Thanks for letting me know!
The opposite would be a “plethora”
Would you say I have a plethora of piñatas?
thanks for letting me know, that means a lot.
It means a lot to me too.
They’re a temporary bump in the metrics which are measured by shareholders. They’ve also become short sighted morons who only care quarter to quarter and not long term sustainability. Why? Because the average age of most of the larger ones are other companies ran by people well over 60 who will die before it happens.
I’m going to school right now for game design. I’m an international student hoping to work here after too. I’ve put all my eggs in this basket, I barely even have enough estimated money for a plane ticket home if I don’t get work right out of school
Let AAA burn. I want to see it collapse, I want to see all the big game companies shutter. Now is such a great time to see indie studios going wild making pieces of art and I want people working there instead
May each of those big ass studios perish and may their market share become a financial whale fall for you and your peers’ wonderful, impossible indie game passion projects.
I hope you go far friend and I hope to play something you’ve had a part in making one day
I’d say now if you are an honest Dev youll get way more respect from the community than ever before. I can’t stand these liars.
collapse of the entire western AAA gaming industry
Don’t threaten me with a good time. Seriously, that might be exactly what the industry needs.
It absolutely does need it. It’s needed it for several decades at this point. Layoffs in the past few years have been higher than they were during the 2008 recession, and that’s a year after year stat, not combined. Every year has had worse layoffs than after one of the worst financial collapses in recent history. Wages have been stagnate since I was in college almost 20 years ago and realized that I made more at my summer job than I could expect to make starting out as an artist in the industry, and I’d be walking in with a bunch of college debt.
Let it burn and watch the new studios built by people who make games, not corporate finance bros, rise from the ashes like new growth after a brush fire, full of passion for making good games first and foremost.
They should sell products users want at prices they’re willing to pay. Without abuse, deception, or other malicious acts.
But won’t somebody please think of the shareholders? /s
Funnily enough it would probably be better for the majority of shareholders.
It would take longer than a quarter to realize, so they’re not interested. Myopia is emblematic of capitalism.
I do. I think of the big ones going through a wood chipper.
No love for the eisbrecher version?
(It’s the first time I hear this band, and I’m fucking loving it.)
Let’s do it differently: Eisbrecher’s version when the A³ gaming industry dies, Bach’s when the pop music industry dies, and Evangelion’s when Hollywood does so. Deal?
Start making better games.
Even better.
Stop charging us again and again for the same shit just cause it’s on a newer system.
Stop blocking backwards compatibility just to charge us again.
Stop attacking rom sites because they have a file of a game you stopped supporting or selling 40 years ago.
Make better shit.
Stop nickel and diming us with “dlc” on your unfinished piece of trash.
Stop micro transactions.
Stop attacking your fucking customers and bleeding us dry.
Shareholders gotta eat I guess.
Those are fine ideas, but most people are really not even that picky.
Make it good, price it even halfway reasonable, people will buy it. Lots of games are selling well.
(Maybe stop spending half a billion on the budgets if you want to be profitable, instead of trying to squeeze more out of the players.)
Or put less of that half billion into ads and use it to improve the game development part
As a business case, I do have to admit that money spent on advertisement is rarely wasted and should be looked at seriously. It’s not rare to see a 10-1 ROI as long as you don’t go completely overboard. There are a lot of good indie titles that nobody has heard of or played because they had no hype.
I’m not saying cut all of it, like 10%, put it towards higher dev counts so you don’t have to engage crunch as much
It’s easy problem to fix they just have {YOU MUST OWN THE PREMIUM BATTLE PACK FOR $9.99/MONTH* TO VIEW THIS CONTENT}
I don’t mind passes honestly, but also they should not expire. I paid for that shit, let me finish it, if it takes a week or a month or a decade, let me finish it at my own pace.
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But you save 5% that way!
2024 survey from Consumer Reports here. Representative sample of 2022 people.
“Still playing gaming systems released before 2000” in this case means “has used at least one gaming system released before 2000 at least once in the past year.”
What you probably imagined is probably very different from what the survey actually reported.
If I play Streets of Rage 2 (1992) but on an emulator running on my Steam Deck (2022), does that count?
By their metric, no.
It’s not a great metric since systems from before 2000 can be emulated on newer hardware, and in fact that’s the most common way for people to play old games.
I actually don’t know that it excludes emulation (or to what extent it excludes it). Like I wouldn’t personally count emulating an NES game on a Switch, but when I pop an actual PS2 DVD into my computer, burn it to an ISO, and play it on PCSX2 – when I own two functioning PS2s, dumped the BIOS, and help work on the emulator – I would probably ultimately answer “yes” to this question.
But it also seems clear that the person writing it knew almost nothing about retro gaming to have not clarified this even a little.
It says “gaming systems released before 2000”, not games. You’re right, focusing on the hardware rather than the games is an odd decision.
let AAA and AAAA fail. indie devs would have a much larger platform. current gen equipment is too expensive as it is and will get worse.
People still read classic books, watch classic movies, go to see classical art and listen to classical music. Why would video games as an entertainment art form be any different?
People need to stop reading books from before 2000 and only read books with Kindle’s unlimited plan! Think of the shareholders!
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