People’s minds are growing numb to the madness. This is very similar to what happened in Soviet Russia in the five years leading up to the collapse of the government.
It does seem rather similar to the collapse of Soviet Russia. Increasingly little confidence in the government by citizens all across the country. States that increasingly aren’t seeing any benefit in existing as part of the union. Its quite uncanny actually.
There are differences of course bcz there isn’t as big of different ethnic groups concentrated throughout the country ready to start their own countries bcz they never wanted to be part of the country in the first place.
I really dont want to find out whats on the other side of that scenario for us, but it doesn’t seem completely unlikely.
Some voted to destroy the United States. Others were failed by the educational system and the media. Irrespective of cause, there’s no going back. We’re now in a place where “fuck you I’ve got mine” and “make me” is the basis of our formal society that only recognizes power in all its forms. I do not know what the future holds. I can only say that if this year were a taro card, it’s Death, as what was changes into something new an unrecognizable.
I figure we’ll see smaller inter-state alliances forming into regional powers. Most likely all of the states that have larger populations will gain a lot of power relative to those with smaller populations. In all likelihood the stratification of wealth will accelerate even further into an absolutely obscene spectacle. The oligarchs will win, in the short term at least, if the federal government falls.
California, Oregon, and Washington kinda do already. All three states often tie legislation to the other two states also passing it. Like locking daylight savings in place if Washington hadn’t dropped the ball.
dropped the ball
Saved the ball you mean. Daylight-saving time is a curse which should be abolished not set in stone.
At this point I’m down for either daylight time or standard time as long as we stop changing back and forth!
I’ll grudgingly accept that as less awful than our current arrangement.
Those are called interstate compacts, and they tend to be specific to individual laws. I was thinking more along the lines of military alliances, so kind of a more advanced form of this type of political alliance-making
There was the Western States pact from the beginning of the covid-19 pandemic. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_States_Pact
There are differences of course bcz there isn’t as big of different ethnic groups concentrated throughout the country ready to start their own countries bcz they never wanted to be part of the country in the first place.
You sure? Black separatism was big in the 60s and 70s, and once the dissolution of the Union filters into the wider public consciousness, you’ll probably see Latinos want to do their own thing.
Yes, yes I am sure. We are not the Soviet Union. Our countries collapse may rhyme with history, but it is not exactly the same. We are a country founded by immigrants. Russia was not founded by immigrants in the same way. It has existed in some form for at least a thousand years longer than the U.S., maybe more
The documentary, HyperNormalisation, was made nearly a decade ago, in 2016.
Just a fun tid bit I thought I’d share.
Edit: spelling. Thanks, u/A_norny_mousse
Yep. It’s been a while. Already contained Trump.
If you (anybody) haven’t watched it yet, please do.
BTW - and I don’t say this to nitpick, just to make it easier to find - the documentary is named Hypernormalisation.
I know this narrative is wide spread, and I have no chance to fight it, but it’s not fucking not.
USSR has collapsed because of a lot of factors, but the most important of them was that the political elite was willing to change (not to be mistaken with to go away). USSR had an infinite space for doubling down deeper and deeper
I experience the opposite, at least here on Lemmy. It all leads me to conserve my attention for the things that are actually happening.
I mean sure, it’s still draining and hard to keep up with, but I think we all learned to filter out some of the nonsense, and see behind the clown show. Except for those who thrive on the outrage, and not actual concern.
Here’s hoping it’s leading up to a collapse this time too.
I have a prediction:
Iran will send agents to America, who will act as ICE members. Through this guise, they will antagonize the Trump Regime - blackbagging supporters, assassinating politicians, and generally performing domestic terrorism on the ‘behalf’ of the Regime in a very showy and flashy way. They don’t need ID, license plates, nor uniforms, can mask, and bear weapons. Any time they need plausible deniability or to cause some form of riot, they can also attack the general populous, and earn a $1,500 paycheck for each colored head they bring to the Regime.
The Trump Regime has destroyed America’s intelligence apparatus, too. Iran has a blank check for destabilizing America, and Trump signed the fucker.
Probably many sleeper agents in the US already
President Krasnov is one.
American concept of law enforcement at the hands of the Executive resulted in this lawlessness
I have seen articles and discussions about all of those items multiple times. We’ve known trump was an associate of Epstein for how many years? 20? 30? The problem is that there’s literally no system in place to hold anyone accountable for anything unless the person being held accountable is just a regular person living paycheck to paycheck.
Mostly agree, but the Epstein bit gave me pause. Did anything new come to light recently?
Elon and Trump had their little fight and Elon brought up Epstein then apologized.
His big “bombshell” was just
“Trump is in the Epstien files!!”
Yeah. No shit bud. We’ve had photos of them together for decades, that’s obviously the reason he hasn’t released the file.
Musk seriously thinks everyone in the entire world except for him has the intelligence of a washed up ketamine addict.
I don’t believe so. Looking at the released evidence, it doesn’t seem to really say more than what everyone has known for years. That Epstein had contact information for a lot of people and a lot of people flew on his plane.
Sure there is. There’s more of you than there is of them.
there’s literally no system in place to hold anyone accountable for anything
There is, it’s voting.
The problem is that democracy relies on voters being informed. Aside from being racist, sexist and classist, one reason that the US founding fathers initially limited voting to white male land-owners is that they thought they would be educated and knowledgeable. In 2025 we’re in a situation where any US citizen over 18 gets to vote, regardless of knowledge or education. At least half the country is buried under an avalanche of disinformation and propaganda, so the system that should hold people accountable for things is broken because nobody can agree on even the most basic facts.
🤔 is this accurate? I don’t even follow political stuff and I’ve heard about everything in that list. Seems like people have been talking about these things
“People” meaning major news stations which are controlled by billionaires and are the only source of news for the boomer generation. This has lead to the brainwashing that allowed our current president to get into office.
The US hasn’t been a country anyone should treat seriously since 2024-11-05, and won’t be again until they can prove their ability to hold another legitimate election.
It’s a coin flip as to whether I’ll see that within my lifetime right now.
Peak lib delusions. That’s why y’all lost. Quiet down and go back to brunch.
ALL MAGAs are traitors and Nazi scum. No exceptions.
The 2024 election was rigged.
Have you ever worked on a campaign before? Im not talking about phone banking for a few hours, I am actually asking if you have worked at a campaign for a stretch if time?
I have not, but I have considered it. My Dad worked the polls every year for decades, and he was really proud of that service.
Ask him how many people would need to work together in secrecy to pull off fixing a federal election. You’ll be surprised how unlikely it is.
Texas quietly defunded the border wall. 8% has been built and it’s not even connected sections.
But Mexico was going to pay for the wall…
suicides, school shootings, spree shootings, and political assassinations
the three pillars of american education
That’s four pillars… I’ll start again…
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“Amongst the pillars of American education are such diverse elements as…”
Classic authorian playbook. Either stage a domestic terror attack or start a war.
¿Por qué no los dos?
War, what is it good for?
Apparently it’s good for taking the public mind of a politicians wrongdoings.
waging the dog, Reichstag Fire, whatever you want to call it that’s all this is. We can’t have the plebs focusing no us assassinating the opposition, lets go bomb Iran saying we took out their nuclear capabilities meanwhile we actually didn’t.
“Flood the zone with shit” is working as intended. It‘s chilling to see how quickly push comes to shove and we‘re in a world war once again.
We have limited ram in our biological CPUs.
There are so many things that should make the headlines that nothing makes the headlines anymore.
It’s called desensitization.
And honestly, if you think some cazy dude killing two people is what should be on page one these days, you got your priorities wrong.
Hypernormalisation
And that’s only the last couple of weeks. That list could be a hundred times longer.
I already see way to much news from the USA while the war in Ukrain is a day driving away. We see almost nothing from that.
USA would much rather support genocide in palestine than resist genocide in ukraine.
The news has been captured by monied interests for decades now. Stop expecting it to televise the revolution.
