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  • I’m not advocating for a system with infinite growth. I don’t disagree with your first point, there’s nothing inherently wrong with a country having a stagnant or declining population, but that’s an over simplification. You need to look at the demographics. When more people are retired and drawing on services than there are people to work and pay for those services, that isn’t sustainable. If you need more care homes for the elderly, than you need more people that work at care homes, for example.

    If the housing prices are what they are now, with the current supply and demand, how would stopping new immigration cause a crash in housing prices? The aricle we’re commenting under says that 1/5 of construction workers are immigrants. Would you want to stop bringing in more construction workers to build housing given the current crisis? Like I said before, immigration policy is complicated and needs to be nuanced and strategic, it isn’t an all or nothing situation.


  • As I understand it, immigration is always a balancing act. We have a demographic problem in Canada. As more boomers retire there needs to be workers to take their place and pay taxes to fund services. Many critical industries are experiencing a labour shortage and those jobs need to be filled. Their isn’t enough young Canadian citizens to accomplish this. Immigration can’t just be stopped.

    More immigrants will put pressure on the housing market, but the lack of housing is the result of decades of government complacency, as well as support for Canadian housing as an investment vehicle. The amount of houses/housing we need right now is huge. So huge that the current amount of construction workers in Canada cannot build it quickly enough. Immigrant workers will be needed. Undoing the decades of damage done to housing in Canada will take a sustained, long term, and bold effort. Does the current government have the will for that? I’m not super hopeful. Politicians have vested interests in keeping the housing market ‘strong’. I hate to be fatalist, but even if the government does everything right, I don’t expect the cost of housing to decrease any in the medium term.

    Unfortunately, I don’t have answers, besides the obvious that immigration policy needs to be nuanced and strategic.

    That’s my view of things anyway. I invite anyone to criticise and share knowledge on the subject.













  • I appreciate you taking the time to write all that, I read the whole thing. However, I have to disagree with your take. You are making sweeping generalizations about online communities. I know for a fact that countless people have been banned from r/conservative, as a counter example to your claim that you only see leftist communities banning people they don’t want to tolerate.

    You’re also making huge generalizations about the left in general, a famously fractured part of the political spectrum. I think these echo chambers you’re describing are a natural result of people trying to find a safe harbour to congregate in the face of all the vitriol between the sides of the political spectrum.

    That’s a nice anecdote about the conservative tech blogger. Most reasonable people would agree that death threats are bad, I’ve never seen the point. I think it’s disengenuous to claim that the left is equally crazy, stubborn, stupid, or whatever because some guy got a few death threats and kicked out of tech communities.

    Zooming out, in my view the modern conservative ideology is one based on telling people how to live their life and depriving people of rights. If subscribing to that way of thinking gets you booted from a tech project, then boo hoo. If someone subscribes to modern conservatism and has no interest in budging on their opinion what value is there in giving them a platform? Sure, there are probably communities out there that are too heavy handed in how they moderate discourse, but that’s inevitable regardless of political leaning. Humans are flawed beings and moderation is always a balancing act.

    I think many leftists are happy to have discussion, but not when it’s pointless. I think blindly saying ‘free speech’ is being infringed when comnunities moderate discussion is bad. With the internet, it’s no longer someone preaching on a street corner, you have much more reach now. I think that means communities have more of a duty to chose who gets to stand at the pulpit. No one is pulling anyone’s vocal chords out, they are free to share their opinions elsewhere.

    Anyway, those are just some thoughts from a leftist who should be more informed on these matters. Also, please don’t conflate the Democratic party with leftism.