

Federation with PieFed worka fine.
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Federation with PieFed worka fine.


One cannot go past hundreds, maybe few thousands MAU without a significant hype and mainstream attention.
Mastodon was the decentralised social network and main ex-Twitter alternative at the time. Misskey attracted Japanese artists from a specific theme , exiled by Twitter. Pixelfed benefitted with Instagram’s moderation drama and then with a Streisand effect. Its autor helped it with some marketing but this only helped with the migration wave, not caused it. Lemmy and /kbin grew on Reddit API debacle. PeerTube is one of self-hosting video solutions and a P2P video platform and a federated one. NodeBB and WordPress carried over their legacy user bases.
No other platform has more than several thousands MAU


MAU numbers for Misskey are underreported as many instances report it wrongly as 0.
Mobilizon does not count its instances’ MAU. Gancio has got no user accounts - events are published there anonymously and there is only one ActivityPub account to follow, which relays everything from the instance.




To Misskey, whose channels do not even federate? (and no fork has changed this behaviour) To Pixelfed, which promised having groups many times, but still has not delivered them yet? To Friendica, which suffers from performance issues, and fixes for them will arrive only in the future? To PieFed, Mbin or Lemmy and give up on feeds of followed people? Out of the Fediverse?


I tested posting from Mastodon to test Lemmy communities on two different instances (szmer.info and fedit.pl). The toot arrived at fedit, but neither community reblogged the post into Mastodon. Lemmy will not work as a Guppe alternative.


There is another group solution for Mastodon: https://fedigroups.social .
@rimu, you probably want to check if groups there work with PieFed


Mastodon hashtags are not accounts and do not Announce every post and reply like Lemmy. If nobody follows you on external instances, your hashtagged toot will not leave your instance. On the other hand, if you mentioned a guppe group followed elsewhere, the group would boost you post to its followers.
Better (more Lemmy-like) discovery.
PieFed was able to subscribe to Guppe groups along with PieFed/Lemmy communities, Mbin magazines and PeerTube channels.
It was a great website. You could feel the fun of exploring everything together with hundreds of new users, from Lemmy communities to Mastodon toots with great threading of discussions. From custom magazine CSS to Collections (remade by PieFed as Feeds). A new, emergent website culture and the promise of later progress (we were meant later to have e.g. flairs (as Badges), and federation with Mobilizon).
You are seeing /kbin software as a Reddit alternative, but it could be more than that. I am aware of attempts of making, based on /kbin, a newsletter/blog platform (instead of Substack?) or a local social media website, as an alternative to Facebook local groups.
Mbin should still be able to view any post from subscribed blogs (be it from WriteFreely, WordPress, openwrite or Ghost), as a full article and the view of it should be very clean.


Did you mean Vivaldi? It features a sidebar already with their own Mastodon instance: Vivaldi Social featured as one of sidebar entries.
A Vivaldi account allows to use not only Vivaldi Social, but also to make a WordPress blog, with federation available too.


Any entity, which would try to make an official instance, should it federate only with e.g. .world, will be bullied out of the Threadiverse.
A relatively open federation, with its choice of providers, is the network’s main defence against enshittification. Reddit was open source too, but as a silo it was able to lock everything down and decay.


The platforms should provide inter-protocol bridging natively. Now we have to follow an unrelated (to either) account and hope that it not fails silently*. This should be a switch in the UI.
*at least one can follow bridged accounts from elsewhere without bridging oneself.

When I am going to watch a film, I go to a cinema, buy a ticket and a bucket of popcorn. I don’t stir a movie - the director, actors and other people already have done it for my enjoyment.
One does not stir a drama using popcorn. One brings it when the drama already happened, made by drama perpetrators and participants. We (FediLore participants) are meant not do make drama, but rather to watch it develop.
OP is on lemmy.world, and default feed is All (sorted by Active) there


Football on Sopuli is active and has got active mods already (they migrated from .ee). You may already close Soccer and redirect to Football.


kbin.social did lift off. Maybe even too much for this software at the time?


If Mbin is meant to be a “Lemmy and Mastodon client” alone, then it is a quirky Lemmy “app” and less responsive Mastodon “app”.
But it shines only when it scales. This, however needs more users taking use of eg. magazines’ custom CSS (and these don’t even federate!), keeping track on most popular Mastodon & co hashtags, adding these tags to Mbin magazines, following outside accounts to federate them to instance, etc…
All the Great Exodus fledditors, people craving for non-tankie Threadiverse service, and also curious fedinauts from outside made this happen on kbin.social, and this is what I loved in it the most.
Mbin happened when kbin.social was already crumbling, but many of its users (me included) still hoped for it. When kbin.social definitely collapsed, the previous kbinauts were already aware of not-tankie Lemmy instances, like sh.itjust.works (hosting MeanwhileOnGrad), sopuli.xyz, or generic lemmy.world.
Maybe the more aggresive Mbin marketing (have you seen the sidebar of this community - it still mentions “KBin”…) would help Mbin - but only at cost of making drama with existing kbinauts. With Lemmy’s toxicity problem being talked much recently (and instances being closed because of it) I am glad, that things did not go that way.


And because of that:
Let’s remove a downvote button out of /all. A downvote has been meant for irrevelant and low quality submissions to a social news website, but as Digg clone went communities and started to replace forums its purpose has blurred.
We already have a site moderation (admins), community moderation, and I don’t mind having a downvote button at community or individual submission page.
This is how an offtop category on ICD Forum looks like on PieFed. Yes, it’s in Polish
Yes, you want to sort posts on Discourse or NodeBB by Active. Check “View community on another server” ;)
If it federates to Mastodon, then it will federate to PieFed too.