• RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 years ago

    Why should we care? So address space may run out eventually - that’s our ISPs’ problem.

    Other than that I actually don’t like every device to have a globally unique address - makes tracking even easier than fingerprinting.

    That’s also why my VPN provider recommends to disable IPv6 since they don’t support it.

      • Avatar_of_Self@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 years ago

        You’d better hope that you can NAT ipv6 because if you aren’t behind a CGNAT and then your LAN is completely exposed without a NAT you’re very likely going to have devices exploited.

        NATs on people’s boundary has been doing pretty much all of the heavy lifting for everyone’s security at home.

        • orangeboats@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          The word you are looking for is firewall not NAT.

          NAT does not provide security whatsoever. If the NAT mapped your (internal IP, internal port) to a certain (external IP, external port) and you do not have a firewall enabled, everyone can reach your device by simply connecting to that (external IP, external port).

          I haven’t seen routers that do not come with IPv6 firewalls enabled by default.

    • MrRazamataz@lemmy.razbot.xyzEnglish
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      2 years ago

      Because people in countries with ISPs that are unable to provide IPv4 (e.g. too expensive) can’t access GitHub easily.

    • YTG123@sopuli.xyz
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      2 years ago

      Mine provides a connection, but doesn’t expose ports on v6. So I can access v6 services but can’t self-host any.

      • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
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        2 years ago

        Huh? With IPv6 you get your own IP address, the ISP doesn’t need to know shit about ports. Your address is not behind a NAT anymore, and ports don’t need to be forwarded.

        Perhaps you mean the ISP set up a firewall that blocks incoming connections? In which case, maybe you can have that firewall disabled? ISP firewalls and “safe browsing” packages are always shit.

        To be honest though there might be some aspect to this I don’t know.

  • GTG3000@programming.dev
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    2 years ago

    “Everyone is using IPv6”

    It’s barely supported. Most providers here “offer IPv6”, but each has a different gotcha to actually using it, if it works at all and they didn’t just route you through hardware that doesn’t know what it is.

    • flying_sheep@lemmy.ml
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      2 years ago

      What’s “here”? Here in Germany, mine has it for maybe 10 years or so. Basically since launch day.

      And new ISPs only have v6 since all legacy (v4) blocks have been sold years ago.

  • JATth@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    I’m actually bit sad that I had to move onto a ISP which has zero IPv6 support, as I previously did have IPv6. The last thing I did on that connection was to debug the hell out of my IPv6 code I had developed.

  • bigredcar@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Just remember we got rid of TLS 1.0 the same thing can be done with IPv4. It’s time for browser makers to put “deprecated technology” warnings on ipv4 sites.

    • NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      IPv4 isn’t depreciated, it’s exhausted. It’s still a key cornerstone of our current internet today.

      We still have “modern” hardware being deployed with piss-poor IPv6 support (if any at all). Until that gets fixed, adoption rates will continue to be low. Adding warnings will only result in annoying people, not driving for improvement.

  • nick@midwest.social
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    2 years ago

    I’m not. I disable it on all Linux machines I manage. And we do not use it at work either.

  • hddsx@lemmy.ca
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    2 years ago

    Roses are red, violets are blue, everyone is using IPv6, why aren’t you?

    Roses are red, violets are blue, IPv6 costs extra, and that just won’t do

  • henfredemars@infosec.pubEnglish
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    2 years ago

    I’m not using it because by and large it’s not implemented properly on consumer hardware, and my ISP doesn’t care if their IPv6 network is broken.

    • MagicShel@programming.dev
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      2 years ago

      I’ve tried multiple times to go IP6 only. I mostly thought, despite my reasonable understanding of IP4, that I was the problem in trying to set it up. I found my dns host was being forgotten multiple times a day, set to something invalid, then it would time out and revert back to the working one. I couldn’t figure out how to connect two computers together for Minecraft.

      Now I hear it was just garbage consumer hardware and software? Fuck me. So much wasted time and effort to say nothing of believing I had turned into a tech idiot.

      • henfredemars@infosec.pubEnglish
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        2 years ago

        You’re not an idiot. You’re using tools that don’t really do what they claim because it wasn’t considered an important use case.

        IPv6 is great, but we haven’t seen enough pain yet to really drive adoption on the home LAN.

        My solution uses the ISP box to deliver stateless auto conf, and bridging a consumer router. I can’t open ports but at least I get an IP.

        • Album@lemmy.ca
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          2 years ago

          Do you have an example? Because it works great on openwrt, dd-wrt, pfsense, opnsense, unifi, mikrotik…and then if you’re using the isp equipment it works out of the box.

          • madscience@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            2 years ago

            You’re using open source third party firmware and higher end networking gear as an example. Of course they work. Shitty consumer grade brands aren’t in the same class