• joelfromaus@aussie.zone
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    Unpopular opinion: these memes always have ‘I am very smart’ energy on Lemmy. The issue is that these companies should support Linux not that your personal taste in video games means it’s a good thing that they don’t.

    I don’t play any of these particular games but I have other software that doesn’t run on Linux without considerable effort. So I haven’t switched. My best friend has switched and made the changes necessary and is forever troubleshooting issues.

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      No, no, no - this is all wrong. I don’t consider you a person unless you self-flagellate at the terminal daily, compiling from source in dependency hell while being cleansed by the vim fires at the altar of Tux.

      This species of Linux user reminds me quite a lot of Catholics.

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        You’re shadowboxing with a nonexistent Linux user. People do that kind of stuff as a hobby, not for status. Most people who are into that sort of thing are too asocial to use any social capital they might have anyway.

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        I read that as “self-felate” and was impressed and horrified that people were that flexible while using the terminal.

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        Lol, is that what you tell yourself every day to justify staying with Windows? Do you convince yourself by imagining Linux users suffering?

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            And I don’t use the terminal every day and install apps from the application manager.

            If you have chosen a distro that forces you to use the terminal or install apps from source code, that’s your choice, not a condition for all Linux users.

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              You’re clearly not who I’m talking about then.

              I’ve used various distros as daily drivers for over 20 years. Debian-based is comfy for me. So is the terminal, but I’ll use a gui if it suits the situation. If I need a software package I install it in whatever way works, whether that’s building from source and fighting through dependencies, composing a docker image, unpacking a static .deb or clicking ‘install’ on flat hub. I’m aware of the differences, and issues folks have, and I have my own preferences as well, but I mostly just don’t care. It’s all free (gratis) software, which I’m glad even exists. If it’s truly libre, even better, I’m all about that. Given 2 functionally equivalent packages I’ll always pick the most libre one. At the end of the day, I don’t feel the need to run an ideologically pristine system. I need it to work.

              I clearly touched a nerve, lol, but there’s no need to get defensive.

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      I agree with you that these memes are a little silly, but I also agree with the overall point that it’s actually good that these games don’t run on Linux. It has nothing to do with my personal taste in these games though, and everything to do with privacy violations via kernel-level anticheats, and getting people addicted via dark patterns like microtransactions, gacha, and FOMO-inducing battlepasses.

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        I built a computer for my uncle and his kids and installed Linux on it. My cousin wanted to play Fortnite, and I tried to pitch it to him as a feature instead of a bug. But a couple weekends ago, I caved and installed dang Windows 11 for him.

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          You caved to the megacorps immense pressure on kids to recruit and devulge their friends and peers desires so that the hypercapitalist pedo lords can Harvest them D: with knowledge that this goes on? Based.

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            I realized that I’m not going to win him over by being a jerk about it. Sometimes, all you can do is give people the space to come to the right conclusion themselves.

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      It’s a meme. Old one, too.

      Gatekeeping “uhmm actually I only play artisanal games delivered exclusively to a single person” is bad and must be spoken out against. And Lemmy sucks on that front.

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      My particular taste in video games is that they are not predating on my kernel bitch whatafuck is wrong with you they should not be allowed to do that

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        Pre dating? Can’t go somewhere and have fun? Is that a crime now?

        Back in my day™ you could go somewhere, have fun and possibly hook up with someone from that thing years later. The lesbians are still doing it. But noooooo you zoomers ruined everything!

        Leave your kernel alone!

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      I don’t play any of these particular games but I have other software that doesn’t run on Linux without considerable effort.

      Anything that isn’t a game can typically be run on a virtual machine.

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        So, the software that runs the features on my mouse and headset run on a VM. Then I play the games in the base OS with those features like software driven surround sound?

        This is actually similar to the situation I came across with my friend. “Everything works 100% it’s crazy!” Sweet! How’d you get the customisable mouse buttons working? (He has the same mouse as me) “There are extra mouse buttons? Oh, there are! I never noticed. No, they don’t work anymore”. 😑

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          So it’s not software that doesn’t work but hardware that’s weird then? Sure, makes sense.

          Next time you buy hardware look it up. Once you’re on stuff that’ll work in Linux you should be able to jump over easily then.

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            So it’s not software that doesn’t work but hardware that’s weird then? Sure, makes sense.

            It’s a gaming mouse (I’m guessing you’re unfamiliar) with customisable buttons. The buttons work best with the software and the software doesn’t work natively on Linux, as previously mentioned.

            I wish Linux was seamlessly transitionable but you seem to be saying that I should change to suit Linux. The “you’re holding it wrong” of open source software.

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              The “you’re holding it wrong” of open source software.

              Eh, not really dude. Linux cannot possibly account for each and every unique hardware combination that is put to market – some of which are being invented as I type this sentence.

              Some hardware is written with firmware that falls outside of standards and specs and some hardware producers are actively hostile to people providing support for their hardware on alternative platforms. Computer hardware and peripherals are a huge market with lots of players. I’m saying if Linux support is important to you, then make it part of your evaluation criteria when you buy new hardware. Or don’t if it isn’t.

              Linux doesn’t have significant enough consumer market share to pressure hardware manufacturers into providing support for them, and it also is a free operating system – not one helmed by a massive multi-national corporation that can use billions of dollars to pressure hardware manufacturers into following their whims.

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          Of course they work just disassemble the Windows exe and find the addresses and break free from bloat

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    linux got just a little worse pretty recently: roblox is now playable on it

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    You can use https://launcher.moe/ 's software for Hoyo games btw. The top one is the one for Genshin Impact.

    Though last I installed Genshin on Linux I remember there being a slight chance of getting banned because you had to disable the anticheat to run it on Linux, but I never had it happen to me and I’m not sure if that’s still valid.

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        Absolutely. I Installed the HoyoPlay launcher through Heroic and ZZZ runs flawlessly on my Steam Deck.

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      The game’s anticheat is very tame generally. I’ve seen some friends run all sorts of cheats with no real repercussions, only getting a one week temp ban for editing their damage to the maximum integer limit.

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        The game still is mostly single player. But, as most gacha games, Genshin Impact is online-only, mostly so that you couldn’t cheat in any resources you want without paying them a hefty price.

        It was like that from the very beginning.

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            My experience with Genshin Impact: -Tried it (Only the starter region, Mondstadt), thought it was healthily dynamic, but ultimately very childish -Left it for about 2 years -Then my gf has shown me what goes beyond and I had to accept the game has merits

            The storytelling beyond Mondstadt gets a more serious turn, presents interesting and divisive dilemmas and unexpected plot twists - so much so that I wouldn’t recommend it to children, actually. The battle mechanics also change and deepen as you unlock new characters and visit new regions.

            Still, gacha mechanics heavily ruin the game for me. I’m here for the story, not the endless casino. Wish I would get my own private server up and running at some point in the future to remove these mechanics and just play to my heart’s content.

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      I’ve got a decent rig and rimworld chokes at a reasonable farmyard size. What’s your secret?

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          I have zero mods. I ran a Ryzen 5 5600x RTX3070 with 16gb ram and I eventually got like 150 ducks or something and every few seconds the computer started to pause and think. It was eventually unbearable. I googled it and thought it was my overall number of beings in the area. So I started wholesale duck slaughter and I think it got better. I have a better computer now haven’t gone back yet. Are you telling me it’s not my PC?

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            One of the recent updates improved the performance of large barnyards, IIRC. I’ve had little trouble running it on an i5 1340p with probably a hundred or so ducks.

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        My mostly-vanilla (ie mods don’t hugely change gameplay/add anything crazy) Rimworld runs fine on my probably what’s considered mid-range PC. I second the other commenter; you probably need to cut back on the mods.

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    jokes on you, i only play video games that is made by a atleast “Decent” company,not made in a slopware engine like Unity,unreal?(the engine isnt bad itself its just the company,also includes the middle ware it uses if the middle ware is also usable by free software too,made by a company with good track record or heavily modified),doesnt do kernel level anticheat,moddable in some way.

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      Unreal - the engine - has fallen from grace. Not just due to all the slop produced with it, but because it’s horribly overengineered.

      Nowadays it’s rate to come by with an engine that is purpose built. Now each and every engine must account for most popular game genres at the moment, that could be done with them.

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        That artifact factory, full of ghosting and stutters is overengineered? I swear Unreal 5 games only looks good when absolutely everything stays still…

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        i see, and never knew Unreal was horribly overengineered.(maybe due to graphics?)

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          It’s used for 2d/3d animation, modelling, live events, broadcasting, virtual architecture, simulation, gaming, and probably many I’m not even aware of.

          It’s designed to be modular and is open source (source available with a share-alike license).

          One common thing that even Epic comments on is how the default UI is meant to show you how it works but many games don’t even change it.

          If you’re making a game then you should turn off all the modules you aren’t using so it doesn’t ship with your game.

          If you’re loading data in then you should load it on a separate thread but many use the game thread and it results in people with low IQ thinking it’s the engine’s fault.

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          Wouldn’t be that bad, but it’s a multiple decades old engine. In fact, it’s first version even had software rendering for PCs without 3D accelerators.

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    Apex runs on Linux. We used to play it, but then they blocked it actively because there were too many cheaters on the platform. I’m sure the cheater problem has been subsided now that it’s blocked /s

    If they “allow it”, you can just play it again.

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    I miss peak Destiny 2 tho. It was the only reason I dual booted for many years.

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      Same, I got in just and the end of the good stuff so didn’t have that long to really enjoy it. I did love my time playing but there was so much that made it clear it was only gonna get worse. Seeing Bungie fall like that really sucked, they had been my favorite game dev all the way since halo 1, and look at them now…

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    You mean to tell me that Genshin Impact is more than just a hentai franchise…?

    And let me guess, next you’ll say the same thing about Overwatch.

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    R6S doesnt work in windows either (if virtualized).

    Since when did GTAO stopped working on linux tho? Did it introduce an anticheat as well?

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      At least for the remastered edition, I can get a private lobby with just me in it to work, but otherwise batleye errors kick if in a public game.

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    I have faith in the general independent Linux developer landscape that eventually most all games will become compatible, whether AAA Devs want them to be or not.