“COP30 provides a stark reminder that the answers to the climate crisis do not lie inside the climate talks—they lie with the people and movements leading the way toward a just, equitable, fossil-free future,” one campaigner said.

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    Industrial manufacturing is declining in Europe for sure, but not because of complying to climate policies, as you claimed. Industrial production is falling in most European Union countries, largely due to a lack of competitiveness with China and the US.

    Also, the article you linked about the EU loosing manufacturing jobs does not back your claim. On the contrary it says: The move to a sustainable economy is an opportunity to turn the situation around. Towards the end, it also mentions that the EU should make sure that industry jobs are not lost and that Europe’s industrial sectors and their workers are fundamental to delivering the climate solutions Europe needs, which are very different things to what you said.

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      largely due to a lack of competitiveness with China and the US

      Where does the lack of competitiveness come from?

      The move to a sustainable economy is an opportunity (…)

      should make sure that industry jobs are not lost and that Europe’s industrial sectors and their workers are fundamental to delivering the climate solutions Europe needs, which are very different things to what you said

      It’s been decades now of supposed opportunity, could and should, of storytelling, hypotheticals and promises, as in your references.

      The results are in, the promises turned out false. EU has the most expensive energy of the world, is losing industry faster than ever, there is no novel “green industry”. People are looking at reality instead of the fantasy could/should stories.

      EU’s agenda on climate change is being ignored for valid reasons. We’re an unreliable partner in accelerating economical, industrial and thus geopolitical decline.

      If we want to convince others on the necessary climate change mitigation methods, we’ll have to have something to offer.

      We’ll have to implement the mitigation methods in a way that shows they’re a benefit. So others will want to copy. So far that hasn’t happened. We’ve shown the opposite.