By now, San Francisco is famous not just for unaffordable rent, but also for its acrimonious debates about how to solve the problem. One well-funded contingent asserts it’s all about making it easier and cheaper to build privately owned homes, but as even the corporate media is now noting, we’ve done a lot of that, and housing isn’t forthcoming. In an unusually frank comment, an advocate for this market-oriented approach admitted at a public hearing, “One of the challenges we face in San Francisco is we need the rent to go back up to get housing to work” Clearly, private development is, at best, limited in what good it can do. We need something more.

Social housing can be that something more. Referring to housing that’s permanently affordable, permanently off the speculative market, tenant governed, and home to people at a range of income levels but always including those who need it the most, social housing has been inspiring socialist organizers in cities across North America, including New York, Minneapolis, and Chicago. But efforts in San Francisco have been stymied by opposition from our previous and current mayors, and the new Big Tech-backed majority on our board of supervisors only makes the headwind greater.

That’s why we we in DSA SF’s Ecosocialism Working Group were so interested to learn from Seattle, a west coast city of similar size to San Francisco, which also had a business-backed mayor and city council opposed to social housing but managed to sidestep them and create and fund a social housing developer through a ballot measure. How did they do it, and what can we learn? To answer that, we hosted a conversation with Eric Lee from Seattle DSA and House Our Neighbors, and to speak to the work already happening towards social housing in San Francisco and in California, we also included Shanti Singh from DSA SF and Tenants Together. What follows is an edited transcript from that conversation, on October 3rd, 2025.