• caboose2006@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    It’s like I say when people just make stuff up to hate on the US, there’s plenty of legitimate reasons to hate on the US. Making up reasons completely delegitimizes your argument and makes it much easier for the opposition to point to the made up thing and say “see, they made THIS up, they must have made it ALL up.”

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      28 days ago

      What’s worse is I fucking called it, now The Independent is repeating this BS (although the rest of the article is much better at focusing on all the horrendous shit ICE actually is doing, and the guided missiles lie is a single sentence basically), here is the article.

      While the majority of the money has been spent on guns and armor for field agents, the outlay has also seen ICE purchase “guided missile warheads and explosive components,” according to Popular Information.

      There we go, tracked this particular disinformation live. Next step is a major US outlet like NYT repeating the same “Popular Information states ____”. Journalism used to mean actually doing something just just copy/pasting from random blogs online. I doubt they’ve even pulled the data from the government portal themselves. /sigh

      Here’s the REAL story, after the made up stuff:

      ICE has also attracted a deluge of unwanted headlines for the administration, including the recent revelation that it has arrested at least 20 children who are American citizens this year, two of whom had cancer.

      Reports of operations involving armed agents “traumatizing” mothers and children and firing pepper balls at a priest attending a demonstration have not helped their publicity drive.

      “What we’re seeing is a general escalation of violence and the use of excessive force by ICE officers,” Ed Yohnka of ACLU Illinois told NPR recently.

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        28 days ago

        That’ll be the independent article I just posted. Because you can do both propaganda and the truth, there’s just rules for how to do so.

        You find those rules by dabbling in both.

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          28 days ago

          A bigger outlet repeating the same false claim with the same citation doesn’t make it more true. Or are you saying you know the claim is made up and its worth posting anyways as propaganda?

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            28 days ago

            Are you asking whether I’ve personally audited all the weapons caches ICE might conceivably have access to?

            I don’t even know if you have a face.