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Nah empathy is for the weak.
Well fuck. Now I have to actually have empathy for his death or he will get what he wants. 😭
have empathy for his children, who didn’t ask to be born into this
and uh I guess that’s about it
Empathy for the bullet too.
Yeah no way that thing walked away unscathed.
Well at least it wasn’t a waste.
nah, those kids are definitely gonna privately celebrate. i know i did when my horrible dad died
His daughter just turned 3, and his son is 16 months old. I don’t think they’re going to celebrate. But, they’re going to grow up hearing stories about how their father was a martyr who died heroically, trying to save the soul of the USA. Let’s just hope that as adults they’re able to see past that brainwashing and understand what a truly horrible person their father was.
Depends on how involved their mother is in the crazy movement.
At least one of the other Toiletpaper guys (Matt Walsh, or the change my mind guy maybe?) was treating his wife so badly that she left him and posted the surveillance videos of his dickhead behavior.
Honestly, they’re all so interchangeable. I thought Charlie Kirk was the Change My Mind guy. It turns out that conservative white guys with big fat heads are a dime a dozen.
we can only hope that they realize what he truly is
They gotta be too young to come out of the programming.
Can’t understand me right now? Just play this when you eighteen <- Kendrick Lamar
He did say kids should see public executions.
“Death penalties should be public, should be quick, it should be televised. I think at a certain age, its an initiation…What age should you start to see public executions?” -Kirk
https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-death-penalty-public-executions-1873073
Sounds reasonable.
Yeah i guess they didnt asked to be spewed from his tiny rancid worm
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Eh, we can start tomorrow.
No because you kjow he meant ‘except for me. Have empathy for me.’
So laugh at him and offer your neighbors dome help
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You know what else causes a lot of damage? Getting shot in your facist neck.
Now finish the quote
I think all of his quotes are finished, now.
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This is the full context of the quote for anyone curious like I was.
TLDW is that he follows saying he prefers sympathy over empathy
TLDW. what would the difference between sympathy and empathy be?
I would argue that the average person refers to a mix of both when they use the word “empathy”:
- caring about the other person’s pain
- being there for them
- trying to see things from their perspective
- wanting the other person to be better and wondering how one could help.
Classifying one as “a terrible problem” and the other as acceptable seems (at least) a bit pedantic. Specially when it comes to language, a dynamic phenomena in which words mean what (the majority of) people deem them to mean.
my two cents
The train of thought he talked about right when he said that was that in the past politicians said they feel your pain, even if they are an opponent. Now politicians try to make the case that people aren’t in pain.
In that comparison I linked one of the differences is sympathy is feeling pain as your own and another is acknowledging pain without feeling it at all.
I’m not saying I agree with his take, but context made the quote made me go from “this guy doesn’t care about others at all” to “grammar police sidenote where he wants people to say sympathy more” in my head
Context is important and I never heard or watched him at all so I wanted to share for people who were interested like I was.
I’m getting pretty fucking sick of seeing this ‘no one should be killed for their political beliefs’ take going around.
He wasn’t killed for his beliefs. He was killed because he dedicated his life to terrorizing everyone who isn’t a conservative white man, and was materially supporting state violence in the pursuit of white supremacy.
That is 100% something we have firmly established that people should be shot for, in multiple wars throughout the last few centuries.
I guess that is living up his beliefs; have to respect a man that does that.
I wouldn’t use the word “living”.
he would die for his beliefs
Well, not voluntarily. There’s a difference.
He was literally lying about mass shootings when he was shot:
Immediately before the shooting, Kirk was taking questions for an audience member about mass shootings and gun violence.
“Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?” an audience member asked. Kirk responded, “Too many.”
The questioner followed up: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”
“Counting or not counting gang violence?” Kirk asked
Then a single shot rang out.
Sounds like he was trying to push for taking away gun rights for trans people.
It wouldn’t surprise me one bit.
That, and then immediately dog whistling about minorities. Fuck him.
Well he’s in hell now.
Sometimes in the future…
“Mummy, what kind of man was Daddy?”
“Well… His final words were ‘Counting or not counting gang violence?’”
He died doing what he loved, making excuses for gun violence.
You don’t; i doubt he consented, so it ckunts for nothing. but we can pretend we’re laughing with rather than at him.
lol. lmao, even.
Hey, I said that.
“lol. lmao, even”
- Assassassin
Thank you. You’re a friend though, you don’t have to use my full name. Just call me “Ass”.
“Charlie Kirk proven wrong.”
Thoughts and prayers
Holy shit, I’m in the middle of buttfuck nowhere with no internet for days, and THIS is the news that comes through when I reconnect?! Perhaps I treated this timeline too harshly
Don’t worry. This is the casus belli that the Guardians Of Pedophiles have been trying to force for months. As much as I love California, I think it’s time to head back to BC. Things are about to get much worse in the US.
My advice to anyone else that isn’t prepared to fight for survival is to find a way out now. You don’t have long.
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“The shooter visited California once, where they were radicalized by the violent left.”
“The shooter owned an iPhone, which is designed by Apple in California. The violent leftists are responsible.”
“Liberals, who constantly demonize conservative speech, are responsible!”There need not be any actual ties to Los Angeles, Chicago, or DC. They can cut any narrative they like from whole cloth. Denying reality and substituting their own is the rightist way.
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For a lot of us we can’t simply leave. And if we can, it could still take years for visas. If we are lucky it will be short, but I’m not too optimistic.
I’m not intending to leave my country to the Nazis.
Careful sounds like your guard is slipping…
You should go off grid for a week and see what zombie apocalypse you’ve missed.
This guy basically had a twilight zone when he reconnect.
Wikipedia editors already 'was’ed all his 'is’s 😂
Pretty sure Wikipedia has a single button that changes all present tense to past sense. Someone who’s more familiar with it correct me if I’m wrong though.
I have no idea but I like to imagine hundreds of editors rushing out every time there’s a prominent death to be the first to change it.
Things Trump do to stop people from talking about Epstein…
Wow, i heard Trump orchestrated this to distract from the Epstien files.
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This is some tin foil hat shit solely because Trump is too stupid to do any elaborate planning like this
Trump is a figurehead. Project 2025 was/is a massive plan that took years to lay out.
Do not delude yourself into thinking the Republican party is a cabal of idiots.I disagree, the Republicans ARE a cabal of idiots. The people who own them and run the party in the shadows, however, are not.
Wow, dude. He’s your elected representative.
Every gun owner should watch the front row video of what guns do to a human body.
If taser training includes being tased, gun training should include being shot.
That’s pretty extreme. Also you can buy a taser without training in the US, so your point doesn’t even stand.
Thing is most gun owners who hunt know. I saw a man shot at close range when I was in my early twenties. I wasn’t involved, just passenger in a car nearby when it happened. The next day there was nothing about it in the papers. Nothing at all. This guy gets shot and no one cared.
I shot pigs for slaughter at close range right between the eyes when I was ten or eleven years old. All us kids took a turn and in some ways it was a good thing. Its good you know where meat comes from. Only a fool would think that shooting a person isn’t going to result in a large amount of blood. That shot was in a region of the body that has closely grouped large arteries and veins. No surprise there was so much blood. Anyone who is surprised should be thankful they have never seen something like that before.
I saw that video of the man shooting himself in those faces of death videos back in the 90’s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer I felt bad about it because they said he was a good man. As for Kirk I feel very little. His words have made me care very little for him. Similar to how I felt when that healthcare guy got deleted.
I realize I may be more desensitized to the things like this than most. At least I hope so.
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and in some ways it was a good thing.
It is. It really should be a prerequisite for gun ownership: you have to kill something.
That is a threshold I can’t personally cross, so I don’t think I should own a gun (and I dont).
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And when that person is Charlie Kirk it’s a beautiful thing.
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Yup, I did. Now what? Am I supposed to feel bad that an asshole died?
No, but there was a shooting of 3 innocent students in Colorado today and now you know what happened to them. And the Uvalde students… Dozens of them…
And disarming the working class while fascism runs amuck won’t do a damn thing for them.
Meanwhile, your “working class” is armed to the teeth and fascism is still running amok.
The left is notoriously unarmed while the right is the reason our gun ownership is so high. At a time when the right threatens to take more and more away, this feels like a poor choice. Personally I agree with a very prominent leftist that the working class must be armed, and I feel that as those on the left we need to see the writing on the wall. The united states does not appear to be going a more peaceful direction, and if we want to keep having any rights for the workers at all we need to be ready to frustrate any attempt to disarm or otherwise neutralize us. In a world where the right does not threaten to take guns from trans folks or keep us from using our right to organize, we can talk about gun control again. Sadly we are sliding away from that so fast that I can’t imagine where we will be at the end of this presidency.
The left is notoriously unarmed
Heh. The left talks about their guns less. They don’t have guns on their Christmas cards with their kids as part of their identity.
But there are plenty of leftists with guns.
No it fucking isn’t. Democrats have ensured that.
Ok buddy.
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You’re right, we already have a goal. There’s no way we can do 2 things at once or one after another… Just impossible. Thank you for your insight.
Not that I disagree per se, but this just sounds like the STD powerpoint from middle school health class: useless by itself.
Tell me you got an STD without telling me you got an STD…
I feel bad that his children had to witness that, and even if they hadn’t been there (which they were) they’d undoubtedly have the video clip shoved in their faces eventually. That’s a hell of a way to lose a parent.
The fact that he died while in the middle of talking about trans mass shooters being a huge problem certainly makes it feel like cosmic karma at work. I struggle to give a shit about the man himself being shot dead. But I do worry about political violence… it’s a very rare occasion when murdering someone sitting in a chair talking is a good idea. Not a single person in his right-wing sphere of repugnance is going to do any self-reflection and change their ways, they’ll just become even more rabidly anti-everything left of Hitler. Shit like this doesn’t go unanswered too often. Violence is a contagion with no cure except time, and the clock gets set back another decade every time someone retaliates. I’m sure we could chain all of these assassinations together into a causal sequence. But even if they’re all independent events, the narrative-makers will be hard at work making it sound like a grand battle of the ages, so the result is the same either way.
Source: History, memory…
P.S. Any bets that the shooter was a MAGA nut? Seems to be the trend 👀
Speaking as someone with a shitty sociopath ‘parent’:
They’ve seen enough its not too much escalation. And now they never have to deal with his bullshit again. The emotions will be complicated, but they won’t all be bad.
You’re looking for someone to cry for. Cry for tye victims of this toxic shit. The kids he turned into nazis. The people who died on the street. The querrs who suffered abd possibly died in silence. All because this didnt happen sooner.
Cry with joy for those that might live now. If you have that much surplus of tears.
Apparently the far right nazis were going heavy against Kirk lately
Lol, entropy of victory, especially for tjose wjo believe in nothing. It’s beautiful.
I feel bad that his children had to witness that, and even if they hadn’t been there (which they were) they’d undoubtedly have the video clip shoved in their faces eventually. That’s a hell of a way to lose a parent.
It’s what he wanted. Quick, too.
It is fucked for those kids though. Not their fault.
America is becoming a pvp server like in the 60s
nicely repaly
Yeah his kids and family didn’t deserve that.
He may have, but they didn’t. That’s why this kind of thing is usually frowned upon I suppose.
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Yeah I agree that it wouldn’t have been easy on the kids. However, if dont think seeing a parent get shot, would be much different than having them die of cancer or anything else really.
Certainly, the kids have my sympathy.
Aaaand this is how I found out. Good riddance!
to bad rubbish.
I found out from a clip wife showed me. Got no clue who he was but he was surrounded by MAGA hats.
Boy that was a lot of blood!
Can you link me the clip? All I’m seeing are the versions on news sites
That was not an easy watch.
I know, I had trouble breathing after laughing that hard
I have been desensitize to it because my twitter timeline has been flooded with toddlers having their skulls hollowed out by the IDF. A live-streamed holocaust has kind of made violence seem not that abnormal to me, so it comes across as strange when politicians cry about people advocating for violence, when literally most of them support industrial-scale genocide of hundreds of thousands that I see dying on a day-to-day basis. That alone has changed me from a “violence is inherently bad” type mofo to a “I would celebrate if most of these American politicians were [redacted]” type mofo. Why should I care if a person who loves mass murder of children dies? It’s called karma.
Did he get hit in the neck? That’s a lot of blood
Yeah, kind of surprised there wasn’t an arterial spray tbh.
Died in the middle of complaining about “gang violence” 👌
The full quote is even more something out of a movie too somehow.
He had just been asked if he knew how many mass shootings had been committed by trans people, to which he responded “too many,” and was then asked if he knew how many mass shootings happened in the past ten years, where he responded “with or without gang violence?”
Been looking for the link but kind of immediately regretted watching that jesus fuck that’s a lot of blood.
It’s easy to find on theync
This is a TRAGEDY! WHY couldn’t they MURDER A BUNCH OF KINDERGARTNERS Instead? This SUCKS! It’s TIME for Trump to send the Military into the Shithole Blue state of Utah!
Wasn’t sure where to post this since I’m not aware of a Lemmy equivalent of r/imgoingtohellforthis
Political memes is probably fine at this point
When you’re about to wear your heart on your sleeve:
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FYI, spoiler tags do not work across all platforms.
I chose a moment to screenshot that wasn’t over the top gore, it’s fine.
The following moments looked like the blood splatter from a later Tarantino film. Soo much fucking blood.
His neck was recreating the elevator scene in The Shining.
Edit:
Picked a bad day to wear a white shirt.
Though not the biggest of his problems.
So not a full Marvin, from pulp fiction?
No, Marvin got it in the skull and had hydrostatic shock. Charlie got a long distance tracheotomy.
Charlie got a long distance tracheotomy.
Jesus Christ I shouldn’t have laughed at that.
That is a fucking savage post. But, according to the victim, Empathy is a fault. Funny how that plays out.
the only reasonable course of action is to mock him mercilessly. it’s what he would have wanted.
aw he looks like he’s pooping his pants
wittle panty pooper with a wittle face
edit: remember, it’s okay to make fun of Nazis
Jfc
Oof where’d you get that???
Screenshot from the video link posted in another comment.
Not too soon. Just in the neck of time.
You misspelled n… Ooohhh I see what you did there
You sly dog! You got me to read your post four times before I noticed!
I’m surprised no one made the same joke first. Guess I’m ahead of the game.
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