An Indiana church is urging the Trump administration to "execute" members of the LGBTQ community because "the Bible teaches that those people are worthy of death," according to WISH-TV 8 in Indianapolis.In a sermon titled, "Pray the Gay Away," Stephen Falco, an evangelical preacher with the Sure Fou...
  • Carmakazi@lemmy.world
    88·
    9 months ago

    When asked to respond to Falco’s inflammatory remarks, the church said in a statement that the preacher was “only calling for the death penalty and suicide for the actual sodomites (homosexuals). The Bible teaches that those people are worthy of death. They are supposed to be executed by the government. We are not to take the law into our own hands.”

    This is the “reserved” and “compromise” position in their eyes.

    • flandish@lemmy.world
      301·
      9 months ago

      reminder: these fascists assholes are not human. they give up all humanity when they actively choose to become or remain within this trump nazi cult. so when we say “nazis are not human” we are not dehumanizing them; they did it to themselves.

      these fuckwits need prison. all of them.

      • Nougat@fedia.io
        27·
        9 months ago

        Nah, they need to be executed. If it’s legal for them to say gay people should be executed, it’s legal for me to say they should be executed.

      • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        191·
        9 months ago

        They are human. Hatred and cruelty is part of who we as humans are. The better among us are supposed to keep the monsters in check. We failed.

        • flandish@lemmy.world
          7·
          9 months ago

          i mean sure in meatspace terms they are physically human but they have done irreparable harm to their internal humanity by supporting this ideology. It’s not just that I “disagree” with fascism (and capitalism and nazism and zionism, among other things) but it’s that there are provable choices these cohorts have made that have done far more harm, even to themselves, than ever imaginable.

        • drhodl@lemmy.world
          3·
          9 months ago

          History is a constant and never ending litany of such “failure”, and we NEVER learn. What’s your backup plan?

          • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            7·
            9 months ago

            You’re right, it’s inevitable. The fascist US will be looked back on with disdain as fascist Germany is, there will be reforms to be better, then in a few generations someone will do this shit all over again (assuming we don’t kill ourselves off with nuclear war and/or climate change). All you can do is be the best person you can for those around you.

        • john_lemmy@slrpnk.net
          2·
          9 months ago

          Indeed, they are human, and possibly under the right (wrong) circumstances some of us would exhibit some of the same traits. But we’re at a point that for us to keep being human for a while longer, they have to stop being human forever.

      • abbadon420@sh.itjust.works
        1·
        9 months ago

        I don’t think these are technically nazis. Nazis have a political purpose for which they do the things they do. These folks don’t have a purpose or an agenda besides murderlust en powerhunger. Nazis are evil as a byproduct, a side hustle. These folks are evil as their core business.

        • Frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          4·
          9 months ago

          That is being a Nazi. Finding an “other” to blame all your problems on is central to the idea. If they let up on this for a moment, they’d have to solve actual problems, and they don’t know how to do that.

    • Rekhyt@lemmy.world
      6·
      9 months ago

      From the Passion narrative according to John (John 18)

      29 So Pilate came out to them and asked, “What charges are you bringing against this man?”

      30 “If he were not a criminal,” they replied, “we would not have handed him over to you.”

      31 Pilate said, “Take him yourselves and judge him by your own law.”

      “But we have no right to execute anyone,” they objected.

      Literally the exact same method that the Jewish religious authorities used to try to convince the Romans to execute Jesus because they weren’t allowed to execute people.

      (Note: this is not meant to be antisemitic, just contextual, though the Jews’ role in the execution of Jesus has been and is still used to justify antisemitism)

    • Dale@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      9 months ago

      Never mind that the story they are referencing is about the importance of hospitality. It would be more accurate to say that the Bible is saying to kill ICE agents.

      • Soggy@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        9 months ago

        They haven’t actually read the story if Sodom and Gomorrah, they’ve only had it explained to them by people they outsource critical thought to.

    • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      I mean, what’s the big deal? The church (theirs of course) and the State were never supposed to actually be separate in a secular nation with something as clear as the First Amendment. The Founders with the likes of Jefferson who had a tenuous relationship with xtianity so very obvs meant this place to be JESUSLAND.

      Also, it’d be the STATE doing the murdering, you guys! It’d be a righteous and lawful murdering, because Jebus.

    • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca
      14·
      9 months ago

      Religion is an endemic mental illness. I’d say people should keep it to themselves and once they leave their house, I don’t want to hear anything about it, or it’s off to the mental institution.

    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
      9·
      9 months ago

      Be careful, you’ll upset the “real christians”, who will tell you about how this person is a “fake”, because Jesus said “love thy neighbor”, and all the other things in the Bible “don’t count” for some reason.

      • EldenLord@lemmy.world
        82·
        9 months ago

        No, religion as a concept is incompatible with civilized life. Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism etc. all make human life on earth objectively worse. Whether they are the origin or just an outlet for human depravity doesn‘t matter, they all need to be left in the past. Or the past with all its wars and suffering will not leave us.

        • SulaymanF@lemmy.world
          212·
          9 months ago

          Nonsense. They also uplift people and do a lot of good in the world. Billions of people find benefits in religion. The problem is human nature.

          • Headofthebored @lemmy.world
            9·
            9 months ago

            Yes, human nature being susceptible to violent propaganda from religious groups that deliberately creates in-groups and demonizes out-groups which leads to war and genocide at the behest of the rich who are the only beneficiaries.

            • CorruptCheesecake@lemmy.world
              1·
              9 months ago

              This sounds a lot like fascism. Humans will always find an excuse for violence and look for someone else to blame. But I wouldn’t say all religion is bad, Buddhism to my knowledge has never initiated violence, and they teach kindness and compassion as core values.

      • tamman2000@lemmy.world
        01·
        9 months ago

        Tell us you’re not paying attention to the rest of the world without telling us you’re not paying attention to the rest of the world.

  • RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world
    52·
    9 months ago

    “The Bible teaches that those people are worthy of death. They are supposed to be executed by the government. We are not to take the law into our own hands.”

    Ah yes, Jesus was famously pro-death penalty as long as only the state was enforcing it.

  • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
    42·
    9 months ago

    Gaslight
    Obstruct
    Project

    Normal people don’t look at others and think “they want our children [sexually].” 🤮 I’m unaware of any proof that LGBTQ+ folks prey on kids at higher rates than cishet predators. They need to check this guy’s computer and keep him away from children…

    • Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      8·
      9 months ago

      As far as I have been able to find, the material published on there being a higher per capita amount of preds in the LGBTQ community have been discredited, and most of these claims come from a small number of papers, largely published years ago, by conservative groups pay

  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    40·
    9 months ago

    “It’s a good thing that our current situation couldn’t get any worse.”

    Situation: [gets worse]

    • Soulg@ani.socialEnglish
      2·
      9 months ago

      I may be a naive optimist but I do not see it every getting to this point. Even after everything that’s been happening, it feels too extreme

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        All bets are off, man. “It couldn’t happen here” is an old and tired refrain, I’m afraid.

  • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.worldEnglish
    39·
    9 months ago

    My supervisor is a lesbian who proudly introduces people to her wife, and she is as rabid a Trumper as I’ve ever met. I’ve tried to introduce her to the “Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party” concept but she doesn’t understand the point. She has somehow concluded that it is Republicans who have fought for and won gay rights (like the right to marry that she’s a beneficiary of) while Democrats want to take those rights away. I don’t have any idea how somebody gets to a mental state like that - I can’t accuse her of drinking the Kool-Aid because no Republican media says anything like that.

    She really hates black people so her basic conservative stance is at least understandable. Except that she talks loudly about how she wants to bang the black guy that delivers our water bottles.

      • testfactor@lemmy.world
        1·
        9 months ago

        There isn’t, because the source is his ass.

        This was a pastor in Indiana during a sermon that was live-streamed on Facebook. So, like, funded by a PAC in what way exactly?

        No PAC is mentioned in the article at all, much less a Chick-fil-A backed one. And this isn’t even tied to anything that would require any funding anyway.

        I’m no Chick-fil-A apologist, but like, the idea that this is some secretive super-PAC that Chick-fil-A is using to fund pastors calling for the death of gay people is some Q-Anon level nonsense.

  • Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world
    35·
    9 months ago

    Remove their tax-exempt status. The distinct separation of church and state should prevent this murderous group of sycophants from tax-free status.

    Did Jesus ever say a single word about LGBTQIA+ issues ever?

    Morgan Freeman voice: He didn’t.

  • Sunflier@lemmy.worldEnglish
    35·
    9 months ago

    They’re all a bunch of f-----, that want to walk around, come on our streets, and demand our children. And we should look them in the eye and say, ‘No, you’re not going to have our children!’

    Statistically, a child is at greater risk of being sexually abused by a preacher than a member of the LGBT community

  • morphballganon@lemmy.world
    29·
    9 months ago

    Historically, the demographic most likely to sexually assault children is straight men.

    Does that mean we should kill all the straight men?