The NYPD is skulking through the L train demanding IDs from Black and Latino men, again with zero justified cause or explanation as to why.
The NYPD is skulking through the L train demanding IDs from Black and Latino men, again with zero justified cause or explanation as to why.
Would someone care to explain why would they not show their ID? Is it better to get detained than showing your ID, unless you have something to hide?
Anyway, in my country we are required by law to show police officers our IDs when asked.
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When assessing the degree and quality of liberty in a country, one of the factors considered in academic political science is the requirement of personal identification by law enforcement. It [used] to be a trope of Hollywood cinema that takes place in the Eastern Bloc (Warsaw Pact countries) that ordinary citizens and obvious tourists were routinely harassed by law enforcement for their papers, a stark reminder that here in the states you can even cross state lines without identifying yourself.
It’s getting more interesting as law enforcement is pre-emptively collecting biometric data on school kids and other vulnerable demographics.
Currently wending through state courts is the controversy of using biometric data to identify suspects, which may be regarded as an [unreasonable] search from which we (all, citizens or otherwise) are supposed to be protected, according to the fourth amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
In this specific incident, the NYPD is notoriously racist and aggressive, so this may be contempt of cop while black As the adage goes, you can beat the rap but you can’t beat the ride. This assures these young men will have a bad week regardless of their guilt of any wrongdoing.
It’s literally a fourth amendment right. I’m not cool with any of my rights being infringed upon. No one should be ok with this.
As others have said we are not required to provide ID unless there is a cause. Stopping 2 people without stating why means no cause and they have the right to say no and it should end with ok have a nice day, but our rights are tested more and more. Some good news is its generally an easy case for a lawyer to pickup and win meaning they could get a payout from the city. The sad news is generally nothing will be done about the cops who abuse their job and cause the tax payers more money in lawsuits that should never happen.
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Yep
so if I wanna take a stroll in the morning in my gym shorts without my wallet flopping around in my pocket, I am committing a crime?
Yes. In that case they will probably ask you about your info, check in their system, you would get a fine for not carrying your documents, and that’s it.
A BIG difference, however, is that they will not even approach you if you are not doing something you should not be doing. In other words, they will not bother you while you’re sitting on a bench or taking a stroll.
They know they’re being racially profiled and didn’t feel like playing along and making life easier for the cops.