• breadsmasher@lemmy.world
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          for all the guns americans have, theyre clearly too cowardly to use them for anything outside of school shootings

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            Are you just ignoring all the instances where this statement isn’t true or do those not count because two guys you don’t like are still alive?

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                I’m assuming you’re saying this because no one has killed Trump or Musk yet. That’s sort of nonsensical considering the former has had at least two attempts on his life in the last year. Important people get shot at on a fairly regular basis in America.

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          A bunch of civilian rifles stand no chance against drones 30k feet in the air dropping guided missiles or the ai controlled murder dog robots they’ve been showcasing the past couple years.

          Plus, what is the disgruntled American town going to do when an abrams rolls down Main Street? They’re just as prepared as afghani villagers when that situation comes to pass.

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          Does it matter though? The people with the most firearms are the most indoctrinated. And besides that, Americans have always talked about needing the right to bear arms to dispose of a tyrannical government, but it seems like people aren’t even putting in the effort to vote or protest, let alone taking out the fascists. So what exactly is the point of all the guns? Besides the purpose of supplying all the criminals in both Mexico and Canada with illegal weapons

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        Not saying you’re wrong just want to understand youre thinking why would they want riots? Isnt that the only real threat to them?

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          Triggering division as an excuse for suppression is Dictator 101.

          Your political opponents are lawless? That means you can legally crack down on them.

          It has the side benefit of stirring the shit/divisions which is what keeps Trump in place.

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              Mhm. It’s understandably counterintuitive, and indeed a problem for “regular” politicians.

              You’d think it would make Trump lose support, and to some extent it does, but I guess you also have to understand how warped the US information environment is. Anyone who cares about George Floyd and actually sees this in their news feed would not support Trump anyway, whereas that’s not the case for nearly any past president. Supporters who see the riots would write them off as not Trumps fault.

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          Enact martial law, take over all legislation, be a dictator. Job done.

          That’s why he’s firing everyone at the top of the military who isn’t a white male.

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          trump has been looking to apply the insurrection act since his first term. with the various sycophants in congress and the executive, there has never been a more opportune time (other than tomorrow, of course).

          as to why… well, trump has gotten even more messianic since his first term. suppression of dissent would be a powerplay that may yield significant dividends, showing loyalists the need to stay in the camp and detractors what happens when you resist.

          just my 0.02

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          Authoritarians equate fear with respect. Aggressively putting down a riot makes people scared = people respect them. It is the same reason Putin jails critics inhumanely or Kim kills families of defectors in NK. If people lose their fear of them these despots are powerless.

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    I think the ultimate goal is martial law, and I think he is unconcerned about what triggers his ability to declare it.

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    They just want to cause riots. Trump and Elon are agitators.

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      This. I’m convinced at this point they’re attempting to instigate riots so they can declare material law and seize full control over the US government.

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      I agree. This is just intended to cause civil unrest to distract from everything else they’re doing to tear America apart.

      But also, Musk is a Nazi.

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        They are the clowns of the circus. Half the US is trying to figure out who the ring master of the circus is … instead of looking for the guy who owns it.

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    A possible motive is to push the power of the executive. If Trump can somehow seize this power, there’s nothing that can stop him.

    That or just trying to embolden the police, but I’m guessing it’s even worse than that.

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      I’d say it’s to embolden police and violent racists, in hope of helping encouraging their race war to destabilize the country so that they can divy it up.

      The interesting lack of forethought from the oligarchic billionaires is that their billions mean nothing without the US dollar and NYSE. The majority of their hoards of wealth are not backed by anything tangible that could be of use in the event that the US dollar ceases to be relevant. I suppose that this kind of thought isn’t likely to occur to sociopaths that were born with platinum spoons in their mouths.

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        Yes - just as with the DEI controversy, the main point is just to fan the flames of racism.

        The 1% understand that the US is approaching a breaking point. Things are going to shit, and people are going to start looking for someone to blame for the ugliness and horror and death to come.

        And the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of the 1%.

        And of course, they don’t want us to see that. So they’re doing everything they can to divide us against ourselves.

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      A gun. A gun can stop him. They work well. American has more guns than people, and a second amendment designed to stop this nonsense when needed.

      It’s needed.

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        Tesla do that on their own. If we did their building, people will think it was the same way.

        Government build hurts the people. We will have to rebuild it again. Plus I want a building that will improve the community and a Wal-Mart building will accomplish that.

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    I scrolled all the way to the bottom of these comments, then breathed a sigh of relief.

    Because the comments that I’d see on reddit, the ones all the way at the bottom that show up every time George Floyd is mentioned, weren’t there. I hadn’t even thought about those comments until I got the end.

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    Gotta throw red meat to the racist AF base to distract from how fElon and his Incel Clown Posse is stealing from the American people…

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    They reeaally doing anything they can to get that martial law step started from their project 2025 handbook

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    Elon’s brain got damaged by ketamine usage. At his level of power and wealth, he basically runs the planet and the drugs embolden him to shamelessly call for whatever shits he believes

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    Hell yes! Get Chauvin out of Club Fed and right into GenPop of the nearest state prison. That’ll work out GREAT for everyone. Except Chauvin.